tobben63 Fellow member Stamp eat slumber echo Posts: 1,394 What I collect: I collect to much, globe broad! Member is Online | Mail service past tobben63 on Sept 26, 2019 19:55:xiii GMT Afterwards reading some treads some fourth dimension ago I understood that you could to east sure point make clean stamps that has been miss coloured by age. Like xanthous-brown and so on. What you need is Hydrogen peroxide, merely an x% solution is enough. I bought a litle bottle on a drugstore today. I did discover a not to bad stamp but it was xanthous on one side and let it bathroom for ca 2 hour. Then cleaned in water and dry. Here is the result. Earlier on top. Click on immage to encounter full resolution. Read security instruction on bottle before use | |
renden Member A corking fourth dimension for "stamping" and making more friends Posts: 6,137 What I collect: World West collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA | Mail service by renden on Sept 26, 2019 twenty:03:36 GMT tobben63 I remember 2 hours of Peroxyde Hydrogen is quite long if I am remembering the thread on the subject area - Maybe I am wrong every bit I never put any stamps in a bath At that place is a formula on a web site I have to give yous from StampSmarter - this is great !! 3% peroxyde used etc world wide web.stampsmarter.com/learning/HowToRemoveOxidation.html | |
tobben63 Fellow member Stamp swallow slumber repeat Posts: 1,394 What I collect: I collect to much, earth wide! Member is Online | Post past tobben63 on Sept 26, 2019 twenty:21:43 GMT The two 60 minutes was because I had to meke dinner, and forgot the postage, but information technology look ok? Will look at stamp smarter. | |
stainlessb Member qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep Posts: iii,241 What I collect: currently focused on almost of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Frg and Great Great britain Queen Victoria | Post by stainlessb on Sept 26, 2019 xx:24:19 GMT I'll have to requite this a endeavour on some of the Penny Reds come across how Miss Vickie looks as a blond!! | |
renden Member A great time for "stamping" and making more friends Posts: 6,137 What I collect: Globe W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and U.s. | Mail by renden on Sept 26, 2019 20:51:31 GMT Looks OK tobben63 just Hydrogen Peroxyde at high concentration is a stiff oxydative agent and not used anymore medically (except to remove very dry scabs on stitches, not used every bit an clarified - ameliorate stuff exists and no skin damage !! Good luck bathing your beauties !! and they will not turn "blond" like stainlessb said ....hahahahah !! René | |
blaamand Member Currently creating custom pages until 1940. Posts: ane,392 What I collect: Worldwide - Stamps and Postmarks - not plenty time... | Postal service by blaamand on Sept 26, 2019 22:ten:58 GMT Very skilful result Tobben! I've used ten% Hydrogenperoxid for about two years now, no issues. Sometimes I have achieved good results already after 10 minutes, other times soaked overnight! Usually a longer fourth dimension in the bathroom goes fine for most stamps, withal I always pay attention during the kickoff 30mins. I have experienced a few stamps with inks that is more than apace bleached-out than others, and then need to stop the cleaning afterwards five-10 minutes. Obviously this applies to chalky paper, but too ink on normal paper too, so its seems it has something to do with the quality of the ink itself and not merely the paper. French stamps, as in Tobbens example, are great for cleaning. I have had Napoleons and Ceres in bath overnight without any issues. British stamps are more tender, also the ones on normal paper. Penny red was mentioned, I cleaned many of them and they are doing great in peroxid! Victoria starts looking young again Below is an instance I tried for two days in the bathroom. I sacrificed the stamp for the better of 'philatelic studies', the left office was cut off prior to soaking. The entire postage had a deep yellow tone - the role that was soaked for two days emerged with crystal white paper and a fresh color. The prototype really doesn't fifty-fifty reveal how deeply yellow the postage was originally, it is much more yellow before my optics than it appears on my screen. My decision - x% hydrogenperoxid works - but be cautious. If yous accept 'expandable' dups of the postage yous want to clean, effort to clean the expandable beginning!! | |
stainlessb Member qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep Posts: three,241 What I collect: currently focused on most of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Germany and Britain Queen Victoria | Mail by stainlessb on Sept 26, 2019 22:22:51 GMT I've soaked Penny Reds and Blues, and even medallions for 5 - 7 days* (water with a drop of articulate detergent... in my mini-bath Petri dish)- rinse for 30 seconds to a minute, blot of and press between paper towels and a thick piece of stainless steel plate. I take not had any bad experiences (yet). Will definitely endeavour the iii% peroxide.Not sure I've seen information technology labeled as x% . Used to keep 20 volume ~vi% (from the beauty supply store) which was great for cleaning/sterilizing algal culture bottles back when i did that sort of affair. * beginning time this happened was because I'd forgotten about them. To my relief they were fine | |
renden Member A slap-up fourth dimension for "stamping" and making more friends Posts: 6,137 What I collect: World W collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and USA | Post past renden on Sept 26, 2019 22:24:38 GMT Very adept event Tobben! I've used 10% Hydrogenperoxid for nearly 2 years now, no issues. Sometimes I accept achieved expert results already after 10 minutes, other times soaked overnight! Normally a longer fourth dimension in the bathroom goes fine for nearly stamps, however I always pay attention during the first 30mins. I have experienced a few stamps with inks that is more quickly bleached-out than others, so demand to stop the cleaning afterwards 5-10 minutes. Manifestly this applies to chalky paper, merely also ink on normal paper as well, so its seems information technology has something to do with the quality of the ink itself and not simply the paper. ii days emerged with crystal white paper and a fresh color. Jon blaamand - in Canada and United states, Hydrogen Peroxide is sold in a 3% solution - In Norway, information technology must be different - Since I have no experience with it on stamps, I accept your theory/and protocol ( but ten% you cannot buy here) without a prescription and nobody uses it in medicine anymore.......except dentists !! Thank you | |
blaamand Member Currently creating custom pages until 1940. Posts: 1,392 What I collect: Worldwide - Stamps and Postmarks - not enough time... | Postal service by blaamand on Sept 27, 2019 viii:29:28 GMT Neat. Probably 3% volition do the same thing, but takes longer. Perhaps that'due south likewise more than gentle and easy to control with regards to the experiences I explained in previous post (nearly some inks getting washed-out by the 10% solution). | |
renden Member A great fourth dimension for "stamping" and making more than friends Posts: 6,137 What I collect: World Westward collector with ++ interests in BNA (Canada etc) and Usa | Post by renden on Sept 27, 2019 12:57:23 GMT Peachy. Probably 3% will practise the same thing, merely takes longer. Perchance that's likewise more gentle and easy to control with regards to the experiences I explained in previous mail (about some inks getting washed-out by the ten% solution). I like your response which is positive, Jon blaamand - nonetheless I question the fourth dimension for a stamp to be in the solution - Take yous looked at StampSmarter's protocol - link put a few posts ago for tobben63 ? He is talking seconds with the 3 % - this weekend I volition experiment with dups !! René | |
Doe Departed Posts: 234 What I collect: Chicago Baseball game & Lou Gehrig covers, Mars Exploration covers, Zeppelins & Manned Stratospheric Balloons , Anti-Fascism, Classic Prc (thru A31), Hong Kong (thru A25) | Postal service by Doe on Sept 27, 2019 13:58:11 GMT Questions. Does this brand stamps whiter than the newspaper was originally? Are there stamps one should never do this to? I'grand concerned about my early Hong Kong and early China. That it works on Nappy and Ceres is impressive. | |
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stainlessb Member qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep Posts: three,241 What I collect: currently focused on nigh of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Germany and Great britain Queen Victoria | Mail by stainlessb on Sept 28, 2019 2:01:22 GMT Tonight I did several 30 minute tests with 3% hydrogen peroxide Results equally presently as they dry out! I did notice that heavily gummed stamps the 30-minute soak wasn't enough to remove all glue.... and I await tat postage stamp to adhere to my blotter (aka paper towel) But I could reduce cleaning time to 30 minutes (or fifty-fifty an hour) versus overnight or several days.... that'south a huge plus! And everybody gets a bath!! | |
tobben63 Member Stamp eat sleep repeat Posts: i,394 What I collect: I collect to much, earth wide! Fellow member is Online | Post by tobben63 on Sept 28, 2019 2:19:twenty GMT Cracking. Probably 3% will exercise the same matter, just takes longer. Maybe that'southward too more gentle and easy to command with regards to the experiences I explained in previous post (about some inks getting washed-out by the ten% solution). I like your response which is positive, Jon blaamand - however I question the time for a stamp to be in the solution - Take you looked at StampSmarter's protocol - link put a few posts agone for tobben63 ? He is talking seconds with the iii % - this weekend I will experiment with dups !! René Yep, just he likewise say: I think this is something we accept to experiment with. Do not use your most expencive stamps. | |
blaamand Fellow member Currently creating custom pages until 1940. Posts: 1,392 What I collect: Worldwide - Stamps and Postmarks - non enough time... | Postal service by blaamand on Sept 28, 2019 ten:55:07 GMT Absolutely agree with Tobben, This still needs experimentimg. I've already done this for two years, and my conclusion is that different stamps behave differently, cannot notice a recipe that is valid for all stamps. Some stamps can soak for many hours, others not As I said before, use your dups if you have any, or alternatively other stamps from the same series/fourth dimension age of that state. René, even if stuff is written on stampsmarter it doesn't necessarily make information technology universal truths. My own repeated experience doesn't always match what it says on stampsmarter. Demand to be open-minded and try ourselves with unlike stamps. Doe , I don't know nearly getting whiter than the original. I guess it can happen for some stamps. In general miscoloured stamps never get as make clean every bit a well preserved postage, unremarkably the newspaper of well preserved stamps remain more white than cleaned stamps. I have cleaned lots of stamps on coloured/tinted papers, and the colours/tinting of the papers haven't been afflicted equally far equally I've experienced so far. Evidently this tin can be different for other stamps. Yous demand to try yourself, effort with some 'leftover' stamps first. 😊 About cleaning gum etc - I commonly make clean stamps on clean water first, to remove hinges, old mucilage etc - then clean in hydrogen peroxide after of needed. Sometimes even only h2o is sufficient to clean old stamps 😊 | |
stainlessb Fellow member qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep Posts: 3,241 What I collect: currently focused on almost of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Belgium, Germany and Great britain Queen Victoria | Postal service by stainlessb on Sept 29, 2019 23:52:41 GMT 60 minutes- new bottle of 3% Hydrogen peroxide. Stamps scanned at same settings. stamps had been previously soaked to remove hinges or newspaper and you tin see in the "Before" where all the gum did non come off (Belgie stamp was on paper, but the cancellation missed it) In retrospect, it might have been more useful to have scanned individually Earlier Later- Belgisch Congo brighter, South Wales- stains on border gone, simply it looks a scrap "paler", France one c - slightly brighter, merely not significantly, Penny Reds- both brighter, 40c Belgie borders whiter, but coloring slightly paler I will experiment some more on other dupes , but this seems that information technology is a useful option to have! | |
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stainlessb Member qaStaHvIS yIn 'ej chep Posts: 3,241 What I collect: currently focused on nearly of western Europe, much of which is spent on France, Kingdom of belgium, Frg and Great United kingdom Queen Victoria | Post by stainlessb on Sept 30, 2019 1:12:24 GMT I am at present setting aside any "stained/yellowed/soiled (?) stamps , peculiarly of different colors/ink. Penny Reds, French Ceres and Napoleon all seem pretty stable= I have many early Kingdom of belgium dupes and I volition even guinea pig a couple of medallions. Peroxide is obviously not for all stamps, and h2o with a driblet of clear dishwashing soap my exist a better coice for some.... and in that location may be some just just leave "as it" Othere's using peroxide i hope volition report successes and failures- information technology'south all a learning procedure as to the slight fading- the remaining peroxide looked just every bit articulate as when I started (to the naked middle... well my naked eye!) | |
tobben63 Member Postage eat slumber repeat Posts: 1,394 What I collect: I collect to much, globe wide! Fellow member is Online | Post past tobben63 on Sept 30, 2019 16:50:12 GMT stainlessb I recollect that for stamps that has oxidation damage peroxide will work. I the postage has 'clay' on some sort of dish washing liquid will be amend. Try and learn (and neglect) | |
| Mail service by feebletodix on Sept 30, 2019 xx:06:25 GMT A number of recent acquisitions have had an odour I cannot shift with evidently water, washing upward liquid or scrubbing and then I intend to try hydrogen peroxide as a quick rinse/scrub then rinse in clean h2o to find out if they will loose their smell. I will propose if succesful and/or failures. | |
blaamand Member Currently creating custom pages until 1940. Posts: i,392 What I collect: Worldwide - Stamps and Postmarks - non enough time... | Post by blaamand on November 13, 2019 13:27:40 GMT Agreed tobben63 - we should try and neglect - and hopefully share some of the results in this forum I constitute a Large Queen in such a badly toned state, I had zero to loose even if the Hydrogen Peroxide would fail. The moving picture below at left was taken after a long soak in hot water, which obviously did non improve the situation much. The postage stamp was literally ready for the trash-bin... So, Victoria had some other bath in Hydrogen Peroxide, 10%. Outset she had an initial bathroom of 5 minutes, with piffling or no effect at all. So I allow her soak for one hour, and she was starting to look more cheerful. The original color seemed to remain as it was, so I tried for some other 3 hours - and I finally let her soak overnight. In full the postage every bit pictured on the correct has had virtually 12 hours in peroxide, and the color still wait like as a fresher version of the original, merely more fresh. However the ugly toning of the paper is significantly reduced. Possibly I could take given her yet another bath to get all toning away completely? The ink used for this stamp seems to have proven to be strong and not weakened/paled past the peroxide, only I did not run a risk any more as I think the result was satisfactory, at least for my use anyway. The postage stamp still doesn't wait perfect, but certainly it doesn't await like ready for the trash-bin as she did before. The feel I wanted to share is that this detail stamp is safe for serious deep-cleaning, then any heavily toned 15c stamps out there may be rescued. (Edit) - Now - wouldn't it take been not bad if the peroxide repaired blunt perforations every bit well ! | |
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